Source: Michael S. Heiser, Supernatural: What the Bible Teaches about the Unseen World—And Why It Matters, ed. David Lambert (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2015).
This podcast explores the biblical concept of believers being "in the world, but not of it," a paradox highlighting their presence in the physical realm while belonging to God's spiritual kingdom. It emphasizes that Christians are now holy ground, the dwelling place of God's presence, a continuation of the Old Testament idea of sacred space like the tabernacle and temple. The podcast further illustrates this through Paul's instruction to expel unrepentant sinners from the church, likening it to casting them back into the realm of darkness, and connects baptism to a spiritual loyalty oath against the powers of darkness, referencing Peter's understanding in 1 Peter 3. Ultimately, the piece argues that living as holy ground requires a distinct life, attracting others to God and demonstrating our allegiance in the ongoing spiritual conflict, as our actions reveal which side we are on to both divine and demonic forces.